Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/03/1997 02:10 PM Senate JUD

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                   SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE                                  
                        February 3, 1997                                       
                           2:10 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Robin Taylor, Chair                                                   
 Senator Drue Pearce, Vice-chair                                               
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
 Senator Sean Parnell                                                          
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 None                                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 39                                                            
 "An Act relating to hazardous chemicals, hazardous materials, and             
 hazardous waste."                                                             
                                                                               
  HEARD AND HELD                                                               
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 SB 39 - No previous Senate committee action to report.                        
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Alaska State Capitol                                                          
 Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                    
   POSITION STATEMENT:   Sponsor of SB 39                                      
                                                                               
 Marie Sansone                                                                 
 Assistant Attorney General                                                    
 Department of Law                                                             
 P.O. Box 110300                                                               
 Juneau, AK  99811-0300                                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions on SB 39                            
                                                                               
 Chris Kennedy                                                                 
 Assistant Attorney General                                                    
 Department of Law                                                             
 1031 W 4th Ave., Suite 200                                                    
 Anchorage, AK  99501-1994                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on Sections 1 and 14 of SB 39                
                                                                               
 Penny Goodstein                                                               
 ARCO                                                                          
 P.O. Box 100360                                                               
 Anchorage, AK  99510                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supports SB 39                                         
                                                                               
 Chet Weger                                                                    
 Assistant State Fire Marshall                                                 
 Department of Public Safety                                                   
 5700 E. Tudor Rd.                                                             
 Anchorage, AK  99507-1225                                                     
 POSITION STATEMENT:   Supports SB 39                                          
                                                                               
 Rita Venta                                                                    
 Anchorage Fire Department                                                     
 1301 E 80th Ave.                                                              
 Anchorage, AK  99518                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supports SB 39                                         
                                                                               
 Gale Foster                                                                   
 Inspector                                                                     
 Anchorage Fire Department                                                     
 1301 E 80th Ave.                                                              
 Anchorage, AK  99518                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on SB 39                                      
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
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 DUE TO TRANSMISSION DIFFICULTIES, NO TAPE IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS               
 MEETING.                                                                      
       SB  39 HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS, MATERIALS, AND WASTE                       
                                                                              
  CHAIRMAN ROBIN TAYLOR  called the Judiciary Committee meeting to             
 order at 2:10 p.m.  Senators Taylor, Miller and Parnell were                  
 present.  The first order of business before the committee was SB
 39.                                                                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR LOREN LEMAN , sponsor of SB 39, gave the following overview.         
 Businesses are currently required to report virtually the same                
 information about hazardous chemicals, materials and wastes in four           
 different formats to four different entities.  SB 39 eliminates               
 three of those formats and one entity.  It revises the quantities             
 of reportable materials to be consistent with recent changes to the           
 classification system in federal law.  The elimination of                     
 placarding will allow businesses to file reports using an                     
 electronic format which should be easier and make the information             
 more readily accessible.  Sections 1, 12, and 14 were included as             
 a response to the Toksook Bay lawsuit and protect the state from              
 strict liability for oil spills or other environmental releases.              
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  noted there are two sectional analyses, dated               
 1/17/96 and 1/30/97.                                                          
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  concluded, after a review of this issue last year,          
 Alaska to have the most convoluted, multi-layered system of                   
 hazardous materials reporting requirements.  The local emergency              
 planning committees (LEPCs), that comprise the first layer, are               
 required to have 17 members which makes group activities difficult            
 to coordinate.  The entire structure appears extremely cumbersome             
 to use in the design of a prompt response system.                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  stated the committees can have up to 17 members, but          
 are not required to.                                                          
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  asked about the penalties for eliminating a                 
 federally mandated program and referred to AS 11.04.046.  That                
 statute provides that any person may commence a civil action                  
 against the administrator of state provision (c) or may propose or            
 bring a civil action against the administrator, a state governor,             
 or a state emergency response commission for failure to provide a             
 mechanism for public availability of information.  He assumed that            
 information to be the data sheets on chemical storage. Section (d)            
 allows a person to sue a state governor or state emergency response           
 commission for failure to respond to a request for Tier II                    
 information within 120 days after receipt of a request.                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  explained the intent of SB 39 is not to eliminate             
 reporting, but to make the requirements as user friendly as                   
 possible while continuing to protect the public's interest in                 
 information required under federal law.  The purpose of the LEPCs             
 is to have a plan in place so that when an emergency occurs, people           
 know how to respond quickly and appropriately.  LEPCs are                     
 responsible for the plans; the front-line work is often performed             
 under contract.                                                               
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  remarked many plans have never even been approved           
 and many oil storage delivery businesses have created their own               
 response plans.  He added the plans are not nearly as useful as the           
 people who are at the scene when an emergency occurs.                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  believed some of the information compiled by LEPCs is         
 useful to communities.  Plans often include balloon modeling to               
 determine what areas are, and will be, affected and evacuation                
 procedures in case of a large scale chemical leak.                            
                                                                               
  MARIE SANSONE , Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law,               
 submitted two amendments proposed by the Department of                        
 Environmental Conservation. SB 39 eliminates the State Fire                   
 Marshall's placarding program and redesigns the reporting                     
 procedure.  The amendments are technical in nature, and further               
 clarify which entities will be responsible for collecting and                 
 distributing the compiled information.                                        
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  agreed the amendments will correct drafting                   
 oversights.                                                                   
                                                                               
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  SENATOR PARNELL  moved to adopt Amendment #1 which reads:                    
                                                                               
 Page 4, line 8:                                                              
 Amend the section heading as follows:                                       
    Sec. 29.35.530.  Duties of  municipality  [DIVISION OF                   
    FIRE PREVENTION].                                                          
 Page 4, line 8:                                                              
   Following "(a) The":                                                        
 Delete " Department of   Environmental Conservation "                    
 Insert "municipality"                                                      
 Page 4, line 10:                                                             
   Following "under AS 29.35.500"                                              
    Delete "or of a municipality"                                              
  Page 4, line 14:                                                             
   Following "inventory forms"                                                 
    Insert "approved by the Alaska State Emergency                             
 Response Commission"                                                       
                                                                               
 There being no objection, Amendment #1 was adopted.                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  moved to adopt Amendment #2, that reads:                    
  Page 6, line 31 to page 7, line 1                                            
    Following "available for distribution":                                    
     Delete "the Department of Environmental                                   
     Conservation"                                                             
     Insert "to municipalities"                                                
                                                                               
 There being no objection, Amendment #2 was adopted.                           
                                                                               
  CHRIS KENNEDY , Assistant Attorney General, testified on Sections 1          
 and 14 of SB 39.  Those sections are identical to an amendment                
 offered to similar legislation last year and were proposed by the             
 Department of Education as part of the Administration's response to           
 problems discovered by the Toksook Bay law suit.  The law suit was            
 filed against the state by 500 plaintiffs after an oil spill                  
 occurred on a former BIA school site.  A permanent fuel pipe,                 
 installed by the BIA, gave way shortly after the school was                   
 transferred from BIA to state ownership.  Historically, the state             
 and REAAs have strict and joint liability for 100 percent of any              
 damages from a spill of this kind, regardless of fault.  Section 1            
 eliminates strict and joint liability for damages; however, the               
 state and REAAs would continue to be liable under common law for              
 negligence.  Section 1 is aimed at the unique circumstance when the           
 state inherits schools with potential latent problems.  Section 14            
 defines the applicability of Section 1, and establishes that it               
 only applies to future claims.                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  asked Mr. Kennedy if he supported those two                 
 provisions.   MR. KENNEDY  replied that he did.                               
                                                                               
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  PENNY GOODSTEIN , with ARCO Alaska, testified in strong support of           
 SB 39 because it helps streamline the inventory reporting process.            
                                                                               
  CHET WEGER , Assistant State Fire Marshall, testified in support of          
 SB 39.  The current placarding program is not enforceable given               
 available resources.  Over the past three years, only 15 sites have           
 been placarded; the majority did so voluntarily through Alyeska               
 Pipeline.  The placarding program puts an added responsibility on             
 communities that serves no useful purpose in many instances.  He              
 added the Soldotna Fire Department believes subsections (D) and (E)           
 in Section 9 conflict with the federal requirement to report highly           
 toxic substances, such as fertilizers, fumigants, and pesticides,             
 and should not be enacted.                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  stated Senator Leman's staff would check on                 
 subsections (D) and (E), and thanked Mr. Weger for bringing the               
 issue to the committee's attention.                                           
                                                                               
  RITA VENTA , Anchorage Fire Department, testified in support of SB
 39.                                                                           
                                                                               
  GALE FOSTER , inspector for the Anchorage Fire Department, expressed         
 concern with Section 5, lines 24 and 25, which eliminates the                 
 requirement to report the storage of compressed gases.  She asked             
 the committee to reconsider the elimination of that requirement, as           
 well as Section 9 (D) and (E), since the elimination of those                 
 reporting requirements makes SB 39 less restrictive than federal              
 law.                                                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  repeated Senator Leman's staff will review those            
 sections to determine whether they conflict with federal law.   He            
 did not think federal law requires reporting of compressed gas                
 inventories, in which case, SB 39 would be consistent with federal            
 law.                                                                          
                                                                               
  MR. WEGER  asked for information about the amendments that were              
 adopted.   CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  informed teleconference participants the          
 amendments were submitted by the Department of Environmental                  
 Conservation and were technical clean up amendments to make the               
 various provisions of SB 39 consistent.                                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  announced his intention to have a committee                 
 substitute prepared and distributed prior to the next hearing.                
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  confirmed he would check into the requirement for             
 compressed gases, but clarified that SB 39 does not preclude                  
 municipalities from requiring such reporting, it merely removes the           
 requirement from state law.                                                   
                                                                               
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  SENATOR PARNELL  asked representatives of the Department of Law to           
 describe the scope of the state's liability under SB 39.   MR.                
 KENNEDY  explained the state will remain liable for its own                   
 negligence under common law, but only for the percent of damage it            
 is responsible for.   MS. SANSONE  agreed and noted AS 46.03.822              
 (page 1, line 10) is the strict liability statute.  She added a               
 negligence action is more difficult to prove because one must                 
 establish the state's responsibilities and it would be subject to             
 state discretionary immunity.                                                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  asked if the sovereign immunity principles would            
 still apply.   MS. SANSONE  replied affirmatively.                            
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  asked for details about the Toksook Bay oil spill.          
  MR. KENNEDY  replied the fuel line that broke was about 30 years             
 old.  The state took ownership of the property about one year                 
 before the fuel line corroded.   CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  commented under             
 most proposals currently before the Legislature, the statute of               
 limitations would run out in 15 years so no one could be sued                 
 anyway.                                                                       
                                                                               
  MR. KENNEDY  explained the title transfer process also complicated           
 the lawsuit.  The state settled and received some financial                   
 concessions from the federal government.                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  adjourned the meeting at 2:43 p.m.                          
                                                                               

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